tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post3313508686742186598..comments2024-03-12T05:02:29.895-07:00Comments on Mycrimetime: Arias Attorney Argues Against "Covert Plan" To Kill Travis AlexanderMy Fortehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03325989686201777541noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-59798561462057941192013-05-04T22:03:18.607-07:002013-05-04T22:03:18.607-07:00I agree as well. I think she planned to kill him ...I agree as well. I think she planned to kill him in the shower to contain the blood and evidence. But when her plan failed she panicked and all she knew was he was supposed to die in shower so in keeping with her original plan she dragged him back to the shower and washed him clean. I just wish Martinez would have brought that detail to the attention of the jury...why couldn't she just have left him bleeding on the carpet? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-69710258459977412302013-05-04T14:37:49.540-07:002013-05-04T14:37:49.540-07:00My Forte, that is what I remember, too.My Forte, that is what I remember, too.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14461593338685034051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-68637264092215119802013-05-04T11:34:45.687-07:002013-05-04T11:34:45.687-07:00I completely agree. I also think she was lying in ...I completely agree. I also think she was lying in wait for the PERFECT time. What BETTER time to slice someone up gthan when they are naked and sitting in a shower stall? All the blood could be easily washed away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-68118155448153340072013-05-04T08:15:30.432-07:002013-05-04T08:15:30.432-07:00If you look carefully at that "Chicken Dance&...If you look carefully at that "Chicken Dance" video that was broadcast on TV- you know, the one where Travis is dancing, laughing & having fun, while Arias is running back & forth like an obsessed teenaged fan, snapping pictures of him- you'll notice she's wearing the black flip-flops that were left at the crime scene (State's Evidence marked #50). That is so creepy to me, as I think during her frantic "cleanup" before the roommate returned home, she showered off & ran through the closet, so she wouldn't run through all the blood in the hallway. That's why no blood was found on the way out of the house. As I've commented before, there's no way she left Travis' house looking like CARRIE (Sissy Spacek) at the prom. These Cluster B personality disorders are such adroit pathological liars; weaving truth in their lies to manipulate others. That's where her "I ran away from Travis into the closet & just happened to find a gun" lie came about. Despicable. She premeditated this & went to great lengths to cover it up. Nurmi tried to say, "If she was so smart, then blah, blah, blah..." Well, that simply means she's just not as clever as she thinks she is. Murder 1. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-88681947492117624482013-05-04T07:07:17.732-07:002013-05-04T07:07:17.732-07:00I think that seems pretty clear to most of us and ...I think that seems pretty clear to most of us and I think the jury is going to fall the same way as the general public.<br /><br />The media wants to make us believe that there are two sides of every story but I think in this case there is pretty much just one.<br /><br />The people who compare this case to the CA case are wrong. There was no evidence of murder or that the mother was even present when the baby died. What they should have charged her with was criminal disposal of a body and interfering with a police investigation, etc, etc. Those they could have gotten plenty of years on. You don't get Al Capone on racketeering you get him on tax evasion.<br /><br />I though JM was awesome how he laid out the jury instructions and how they find murder 1.<br /><br />SonjaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-70964472224261978152013-05-04T06:57:07.925-07:002013-05-04T06:57:07.925-07:00Anon (5/3 @ 11:01AM),
I believe that during one of...Anon (5/3 @ 11:01AM),<br />I believe that during one of the initial interviews w/Det Flores, Arias revealed that she believed Travis was very interested in Mimi Hall - describing her as "the woman he wanted to share his life with", but she was not aware that Mimi only wanted to be friends! She didn't seem aware of that, only aware of how Travis felt about the potential with Mimi. I could be wrong? Just my 2 cents....My Fortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325989686201777541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-80032405574303666652013-05-04T06:54:53.844-07:002013-05-04T06:54:53.844-07:00Anon - Agreed!
Additionally most pedophiles don&#...Anon - Agreed!<br /><br />Additionally most pedophiles don't cross genders and all we heard was the 12-yr old girl comment. Nothing about boys except her words.<br /><br />Pedophiles would leave some kind of trail, searches, photos, witnesses, past girlfriends, family, etc. Just like Dr. Demarte was saying... You don't get to be a 30-yr old man with some kind of fetish that has never been noticed by anyone or any evidence anywhere!<br /><br />SonjaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-23575812451044170212013-05-04T06:53:46.137-07:002013-05-04T06:53:46.137-07:00Sonjua,
Interesting about the Bundy comparison. I ...Sonjua,<br />Interesting about the Bundy comparison. I completely agree that Arias didn't kill him right away in part because she wanted to give him one last chance to get back together - but when the sex failed to do the trick, she had to work up the courage to actually follow through with the plan. She brought the gun, no doubt about it - and may have brought the knife too. But thinking it and doing it are too different things. She had to work up the rage in her head until she could finally do it. I absolutely believe that!My Fortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325989686201777541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-44875055741580365362013-05-04T06:50:27.753-07:002013-05-04T06:50:27.753-07:00Sue,
Yes, it makes sense that she didn't want ...Sue,<br />Yes, it makes sense that she didn't want to ask to borrow a gun that could later be traced back! Nurmi doesn't think the jurors have common sense. He used Arias' mistakes to his favor -he kept saying how intelligent she was. There's no such thing as a perfect murder! I think it was harder than she thought it would be,and it took some time to work up the courage to do it! Don't you? I actually liked Willmott in the beginning, more than Nurmi anyway. But she sunk to lengths I didn't know existed! I believe you can do your job without sinking soooo low.My Fortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325989686201777541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-2622082297821007652013-05-04T06:46:33.042-07:002013-05-04T06:46:33.042-07:00Anon (5/3 @ 10:50AM & 2:08PM),
Yes, I'm su...Anon (5/3 @ 10:50AM & 2:08PM),<br />Yes, I'm sure those were indeed the pants she wore. Scary. The fact that so many of his friends picked up on her strange vibe so quickly is very telling. I wish Travis had listened to those friends, although it may not have made a difference if she was determined to make him pay. Just sad and senseless.My Fortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325989686201777541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-29329974835951392512013-05-04T05:56:39.157-07:002013-05-04T05:56:39.157-07:00Anon (5/3 @ 9:44PM),
That was so creepy to hear, I...Anon (5/3 @ 9:44PM),<br />That was so creepy to hear, I can just imagine her chasing that car down the street. She was jealous of his friends, especially the female friends he had. Flirting was in his nature and she couldn't stand it!My Fortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325989686201777541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-3874775594480441962013-05-04T04:56:10.233-07:002013-05-04T04:56:10.233-07:00Sonja, If you notice in the sex tape, she had him
...Sonja, If you notice in the sex tape, she had him<br />repeat himself a couple of times, so she could<br />make sure it was taped. Her brother said on his FB page that his sister taped the sex tape for future girlfriends, that was posted in 2008, but<br />has been since removed. I think she was going to<br />black-mail him with the Bishop and his friends.<br />And I don't think he realized she was taping it.<br />And the funny thing about the phone that was<br />supposed to be lost in 2008, was found in <br />Grandfather's car, by Aunt in 2010. They did a <br />search of Grandparents & parents home for <br />evidence, I think she hid the phone the same<br />time she destroyed the hard drive on her PC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-67593343700053786722013-05-03T21:55:40.984-07:002013-05-03T21:55:40.984-07:00I think Nurmi playing the sex tape was a huge mist...I think Nurmi playing the sex tape was a huge mistake. I think the jury is sick of it and it could only irritate them. Wouldn't it be nice if one of them could have looked him right in the eye and said, "Seriously?!"<br /><br />Also, JA brought the sexual dynamic to the relationship and I think the 12-year old thing was something she said she liked and waited and taped it. Vile.<br /><br />SonjaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-26673948882158935472013-05-03T21:44:42.966-07:002013-05-03T21:44:42.966-07:00I think it was more of an obsession with Travis.
S...I think it was more of an obsession with Travis.<br />She liked all of his friends, the life he had, <br />everything she didn't have. I think she smothered<br />him. I remember one of his friends saying that<br />he went to their house for a couple of hours just<br />to get away from Jodi, so Travis left with them in<br />their car and Jodi was running after them. And one of Jodi's ex roommates from Ca. saying she couldn't take Jodi weirdness and only stayed 3 weeks and moved out. <br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-92152884679719353042013-05-03T21:29:33.645-07:002013-05-03T21:29:33.645-07:00Yep anon, and also she made sure the coast was cle...Yep anon, and also she made sure the coast was clear as far as his 2 room mates. She loves to talk about how intelligent she is but she's dealing with people (Flores, Martinez) MUCH more intelligent than she is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-67724314690065480672013-05-03T21:24:27.272-07:002013-05-03T21:24:27.272-07:00A very sweet comment from Travis to Jodi, on her m...A very sweet comment from Travis to Jodi, on her my space page, before she brutally murdered him.<br />Travis<br />Wow I used to be fat. You look great though.<br />5 years ago<br /><br />RIP Sweet TravisVictoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14871388473674516955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-50171606165174838162013-05-03T20:23:15.239-07:002013-05-03T20:23:15.239-07:00I didn't know that about the sunblock. I thin...I didn't know that about the sunblock. I think that's a big point. <br />- CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-64152877815558146922013-05-03T20:20:04.001-07:002013-05-03T20:20:04.001-07:00Sonja - I have thought the same thing about mental...Sonja - I have thought the same thing about mentally preparing yourself to murder someone. That issue was not brought up in anything I've seen or read. I also agree that she was possibly going for the final attempt to win him back & the plan was murder if that didn't work. I have no doubt the pictures were her mementos that are often taken from crime scenes. They were both very big with taking pictures. <br />- CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-73317212649169355232013-05-03T15:54:19.163-07:002013-05-03T15:54:19.163-07:00Yep, I think so, too.
SueYep, I think so, too. <br /><br />SueUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14461593338685034051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-65380553374874541752013-05-03T15:52:56.889-07:002013-05-03T15:52:56.889-07:00My Forte, so so true! I completely agree with you....My Forte, so so true! I completely agree with you. Bringing in all that sex stuff again makes Nurmi look like the sexual deviant, IMO. Unbelievable. The jury will not be distracted from he truth, Nurmi! So absolutely creepy and disgusting.<br /><br />SueUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14461593338685034051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-26940495411569031512013-05-03T14:23:29.936-07:002013-05-03T14:23:29.936-07:00Remember when Jodi stopped and bought the
gas can...Remember when Jodi stopped and bought the <br />gas can she also both 2 tubes of sunblock,<br />Plan A seduce him & trip to Cancun Plan B<br />kill him!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-73991570987364364032013-05-03T14:22:43.765-07:002013-05-03T14:22:43.765-07:00Pathetic argument at best but they don't have ...Pathetic argument at best but they don't have anything in their favor to argue. Nurmi is just too boring to even make it seem like he's got something with his style of delivery. To say that she had plenty of chances to kill Travis and didn't take them ... well, she sure took one of those chances. The one where he was the most vulnerable, sitting in the shower. Pathetic. Guilty in the 1st degree and death ... and it shouldn't take long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-87004022696124437932013-05-03T14:10:49.413-07:002013-05-03T14:10:49.413-07:00Does anyone know the jury reaction to this bs from...Does anyone know the jury reaction to this bs from Nurmi?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-31525173707087041902013-05-03T14:08:40.813-07:002013-05-03T14:08:40.813-07:00It's established that it's her in the phot...It's established that it's her in the photo's, no argument has been made that it's not her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5571196086974668221.post-68362206659201212212013-05-03T13:26:42.461-07:002013-05-03T13:26:42.461-07:00Yes Sonja! A naked person is so vulnerable, had s...Yes Sonja! A naked person is so vulnerable, had she chosen to run he was not going to chase her down the street naked. She was fully clothed. One of the room mates was fairly new so she probably wasn't 100% sure of his schedule.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com